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RC Project 3D Print: Phase 2

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RC Project 3D Print: Phase 2

As I embark on Phase 2 of the 1/16th scale SU-31 RC project, my focus will shift to the critical task of selecting the appropriate RC components. I have diligently begun to explore a range of suitable options, taking into account various constraints, including the limited available space and the essential calculations required for sustainable flight.

This marks my first experience using a program called Ecalc, which offers a comprehensive overview of comparable components and their specifications. I know that many of my blog readers possess a wealth of knowledge in the intricate art and science of designing RC aircraft. Therefore, I warmly welcome your insights and expertise to help refine my component selection and ensure that every aspect of the project remains within optimal parameters.

(Image updated 18/12/2025…value of dm2 changed from 4.04 to 4.61.)

Some observations:

  • The overall weight, including RC gear, is estimated at 500g. To be honest, this is a rather conservative estimate.
  • The propeller size is limited to a maximum of 6 inches; though ideally, I would prefer to get that down to a max of around 5.6 inches, as ground clearance is critical upon landing.
  • The motor rpm for this size of model is, in my opinion, quite high; my initial attempts at a design with a lower 900Kv were not very successful.
  • The battery at 1800mAh 3S is fine and aligns with initial expectations and fits the fuselage well. The calcs suggest a minimum of 1600mAh 3S battery.
  • I am happy with the temperature and Electric Power readings.

Overall, the design appears to function well. Your assistance in identifying parameters for reducing the RPM and determining a more appropriate prop size would be greatly appreciated. We also need to address the blue and red comments noted on the Ecalc form.

In addition to the above, I have also been researching suitable Chaservo thin-wing servos for the Ailerons, which I think may be suitable, as shown in the following image.

There are, of course, higher torque options, such as the Hitec HS 7115, which require more power. The Aileron length is almost 3/4 the length of the wing, so it is important to locate the operating mechanism further out on the wing, approximately 1/3 the length of the Aileron.

For the prototype, I am looking to achieve a stable flight for a reasonable duration to test the strength of the aircraft frame. As I mentioned in my previous posts, the wings and fuselage will comprise thin walls with 10% gyroid infill; therefore, it is imperative to ensure this model withstands the rigours of flight and landing. Perhaps later down the road, we will consider improvements for aerobic capabilities, but for now, let’s just get this thing flying.

Please comment below or send me an email at hughtechnotes@gmail.com. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Goose Bumps!

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Goose Bumps!

The Grumman Goose project is both challenging and frustrating; it is definitely not a straightforward aircraft to work on. I have primarily focused on updating the empennage, which includes the vertical stabilizer, horizontal stabilizer, rudder, and elevator. During the development of the ordinate study, I observed discrepancies in the documented locations of various components. Let me explain what I mean.

Upon reviewing the CAD drawings on the left and comparing them with the Maintenance Manual diagram, I noticed that the level of the ribs varies by 1/16 of an inch. This discrepancy caused me immediate concern, and I began to wonder where I might have misinterpreted the Grumman drawing data. Therefore, I felt it was necessary to review and verify the information.

Initially, we do not have any reference location information on the Rudder Layout drawing. Normally, you would expect reference dimensions to the fuselage centerline or a fuselage station reference, but there are none. We do, though, have locations of the Hinges on other drawings for the Station bulkheads and Fin layout which in turn will help derive location information for the Rudder.

The first image above is the bulkhead layout at Station 36, which specifies the centre of the hinges 1, 2, 3, and 4 relative to the Fuselage Ref Line.. The second image is the bulkhead at Station 33, which shows the dimension of 65 13/16″ to the top of the Lower Rib on the Vertical stabilizer Fin.

I am looking to verify the dimensions and locations of the rudder ribs and hinges in relation to the Fuselage Reference Line. To accomplish this, we will start with the information we have and determine what additional information we need. The first image confirms that the CAD drawings for the rudder accurately depict the positions of the hinges. The second drawing further supports this; the “Top of Rib” location refers to the lower rib of the fin which includes the locations of the hinge centers. At this point, we have established the correct locations of the rudder hinges from two different sources.

Having determined the hinge locations, we know that the ribs for the rudder are offset by 5/8″ on either side of those locations, which allows us to derive the final levels noted on the Rudder Layout CAD drawing. Does this mean that the Grumman drawings, and therefore the CAD drawings, are correct while the manuals are incorrect? Yes and No…let me explain…

The first image is the Lines Diagram for the Vertical Stabilizer Fin Ribs. In the Table of Offsets, you will notice a list of dimensions from the “Root,” with the first rib specified at 10 7/8 inches. If we overlay these dimensions onto the CAD drawing, we observe a 1/16-inch discrepancy to the top of the first rib. However, all other sources, including those mentioned above and additional references not listed, such as the fuselage Lines layout, indicate that the top of the rib is correctly positioned in the CAD model (second image), contradicting the information provided in this Table of Offsets.

So what is going on?

We should take into account the revision history of the Grumman Goose development. If you examine their drawings, you’ll notice that they have made numerous revisions, some of which are labeled with letters as late in the alphabet as “R.” That indicates a significant number of changes.

I believe that various details have changed over the year, with the more prominent aspects being updated while the less prominent drawings remain unchanged. Regarding the manuals, it seems they were created early in the project, and it may have been considered too labor-intensive to update the level references. This aircraft is quite complex, and I can only imagine the effort involved in both its development and the ongoing updates to its design.

Whenever a small anomaly becomes apparent, I will make an effort to gather information from other drawings to verify the final result. This is one reason why these Odinate studies take so much time; it is crucial to ensure that the final study represents the most accurate dataset possible. If I were building a Grumman Goose replica, I would be using my datasets.

Progress Update 18th March:

A few screen shots showing the latest updates to the JRF Goose. The wing has been completely rebuilt with all dimensions verified.

Technote: Inner Workings

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Technote: Inner Workings:

Working on the controls and instruments for the P-39 spawned a plethora of questions about how these controls actually worked. So I endeavored to incorporate the inner workings in the Trim Tab Control CAD models. This was specifically to get a better understanding of how they work. This was not a mandated requirement. The initial work scope was replicating the external components for a static display P-39 restoration.

Often enough in museums and private collections, we only see the external controls. For many, this is all they want to see. But what if we also see the internal gears, pulleys, shafts, and bearings to understand how they operate? This is exactly where I now want to go with my future projects.

The Trim Tab controls for the Elevator, Rudder and Aileron are already modelled for the P-39 including the internal components. These dials and controls are currently being manufactured for the restoration project. The decision has now been made to incorporate the working mechanisms as functional replicas. This is great and will actually have some form of function, however, the mystery of operation still eludes the operator. I want to take this a step further and produce desktop models with Clearview casings so that the internals are visible. The exact method is still under review. It will mainly comprise 3D printing techniques for the main components attached to perspex casings.

The dials for all 3 controls are similar with the Rudder and Aileron dials operated by a control knob (not shown) and the Elevator Tab controlled by a wheel as shown. At the base of each control dial there is a sprocket for a short Roller Chain which in turn is attached to operating cables. Out of curiosity I decided to have a look at other aircraft to see how alternative mechanisms were developed for the P-51 and the FM2.

For the P-51 the Trim tab controls are comparable in their operation with the internal gearing arrangements but differ slightly in design.

The dials for the Aileron, Elevator and Rudder are all similar to the CAD model shown. The Elevator and Rudder have cable drums attached to a long shaft for direct cable operation whilst the Aileron has a chain sprocket similar to the P-39 Trim Tab controls.

The plan for the P-51 is to fully model all the components in the assembly shown, complete with cables and chains to simulate operation.

A small point of interest; the various aircraft designed by the same manufacturer often share common parts; for example the NAA drawings for the B-25 share the same Trim Tab control knobs as the P-51 and listed accordingly. For some reason, the P-51 drawings do not reciprocate.

If you can’t find drawings for a particular part, check collections for other aircraft by the same manufacturer. Occasionally, this can be worthwhile. Similarly, with Grumman, many parts were shared with the FM2 and the Grumman Goose.

The above model is the FM2 Elevator Trim tab control, the main body of which is typical for the Aileron and Rudder on Grumman drawing 13690. The Grumman Goose has similar controls shown on the Grumman Drawing 13693. Shared components across the various aircraft are listed on the Grumman FM2 drawings.

This Trim Tab control for the FM2 is probably the most complex I have studied so far…requiring very fine manufacturing tolerances. I am not entirely sure yet how this works as there is a complex array of tabbed washers that act as stops for the dial in both directions; it is unclear at this stage how they should be configured…I will get it worked out in due course.

A lot of work to do on these projects which will definitely keep me busy through 2025.